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will play out? more money for defense, then rising deficits and then cutbacks on programs that middle class and working families need? absolutely, that is what will happen. >> what is going to happen to these veterans, now, senator, if they're not going to get this kind of funding. there are a lot of veterans in this country that are being undercut, that are not being -- our obligation, we are not living up to our obligations because of war and budget cuts. so what does that say to the next generation thinking of a career in the military? >> that's a very important point. it says if we cannot keep faith with those people really hurting as a result of service to this country, i think you will have a lot of young people out there saying do i really want to make a career in the military? i will tell you this, ed. i didn't know this until i became chairman of the senate veterans committee t. cost of war is enormous. >> yeah. >> you are talking about people whose lives have been shattered. their family's lives have been shattered. their kids' lives have been shattered. and if there is any priori
. but he was very -- he was on the defensive from the minute he got in the room saying i don't care about you or the pipeline. you know, it's -- this is my vote on it. it's going through. it's what he wanted. and it's been the same. lee terry, you meet with his staffers and, you know, for the most part, most of them are zoned out on you anyways. >> do you think that there is any way you can turn the decision in your favor? do you feel like you have some momentum, or do you think you're chasing this? >> no, when i found out about the pipeline and found out some of the truer facts about it and what transcanada was really up to, you know, i really did feel like, you know, gosh, we're going to try to put up this fight and we're going to try to do everything we can, but it's like about the end of the game. and i'm late getting there to the party anyways. and in this fight. but as we've gone on over the last few years, we've gained significant momentum. and the striking down of lb-1161 has just been a huge uplift to a lot of people, and it's opened a lot of eyes. and everybody has told us, this
spotted in ukraine wearing unmarked uniforms are not russian forces but local self-defense groups. putin said, russian -- russia reserves right to use all means nose protect russian in the ukraine and military force would be a last resort. putin also warned that, western threats to punish russia with sanctions will backfire. for more on this, rapid response panel tonight, former governor bill richardson of new mexico, governor richardson, good to have you with us, and former ambassador with much success, and also the president of plow shares fund. great to have you with us as well p well. governor was this a good day for the united states? the president's demeanor and focus on this, what do you think? >> well, it's a day that moves us in the right direction. think secretary kerry identifying with the ukrainian people, with their democratic movement pledging a billion dollars in aid, they're going to need more, be a 20, hopefully, from the international monetary fund. i think the president being steady, resolute, firm, and it could than you can't trust president putin, but you know, it co
goes this will be a brand new pipeline, so he used that sort of as his defense against any potential spill. there is a broad acknowledgement in the pipeline industry that, yes, leaks do happen. but it's a cost of doing business. so gerling says this will be a brand new pipeline. that is how he views it. >> as new pipelines have no disasters whatsoever. does this ceo think this is a done deal? >> i would say that he's trying to certainly project that. i did ask him, i said ultimately president obama could come back and say no in a few months. he didn't really want to talk about that. but when i pushed him hard, he said about we get a no, we'll be there the next day with another application for a pipeline. so he's going to push hard on this. they're $2.2 billion into this project, so they have a lot on the line. the whole entire project is $5.4 billion. so will there is a lot of money play here. >> thanks for your time. i want to bring in congressman from arizona questioning the entire credibility of the state department report that came out. your reaction to trans canada ceo saying th
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